BIRD 2.0.8

[Justin Cattle]

Hi Jakub,

Thanks for working on this.

You are correct about that issue with init-system-helpers , I had
completely forgotten about it.

We are running bird2 primarily on bionic, and I created a backport
of init-system-helpers 1.56+nmu1~ubuntu18.04.1 and placed it in one of our
internal repos to work around the for our use cases.

I was not sure why init-system-helpers (>= 1.56~) was specified at the
time, but I suspected it may have been because of the build system it was
built on.

Actually, it looks like it has been officially place in bionic backport
snow too: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-backports/init-system-helpers

So, in summary, the ppa was not completely valid beforehand for bionic at
least :)
I think it would be better to include all deps in the PPA, so
relevant versions of init-system-helpers too. Most production systems won't
include the backports repo anyway.

The other option is to try and work out if the dependency
init-system-helpers (>= 1.56~) is valid, or just a build system signature
artifact of some kind.



Cheers,
Just


On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 21:39, Jakub Ružička <jakub.ruzicka at nic.cz> wrote:

> Hey Justin,
>
> I managed to get bird2-2.0.8 packages built (and lightly tested) for all
> current Ubuntu versions in bird-experimental launchpad [1] 🥳
> * Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla)
>
> * Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS (Focal Fossa)
>
> * Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS (Bionic Beaver)
>
> * Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS (Xenial Xerus)
>
> However, when I started testing migration from current official bird
> launchpad [2] I noticed that bird2 doesn't really install on Ubuntu 16.04
> Xenial Xerus (package not found after adding ppa even though it's displayed
> on the web 🤔) and 18.04 Bionic Beaver (init-system-helpers (>= 1.56~)
> isn't available, that is the same for Xenial even if the package was
> found).
>
> Ubuntu 19.04 Disco Dingo is rejected by launchpad as "disco is obsolete
> and will not accept new uploads."
>
> I've fixed build issues by relaxing deps and disabling -docs subpackage
> which was causing FTBFS on older distros. I'll try to re-enable docs in the
> future package builds and they remain available from downstream distro
> packages and more importantly online.
>
> But I'm still quite confused by the current state of the launchpad repo -
> can you confirm that [2] is the PPA you're using? Maybe there are some
> other unofficial ones? If so, on which Ubuntu version are you?
>
> Could you by any chance test upgrade on a testing system/VM/container with
> your setup by adding [1] and checking if bird2-2.0.8 does what you expect
> it to do before I push new packages to [2]?
>
> For example:
>
>     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cz.nic-labs/bird-experimental
>     sudo apt install bird2
>     sudo systemctl status bird
>     bird --version
>     dpkg -l bird2
>
> I wasn't sure how much testing I should do before pushing new packages
> into official launchpad but it seems broken to a point where there isn't a
> single upgrade path I could test so I reckon the sooner the better ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>
>
> [1]: https://launchpad.net/~cz.nic-labs/+archive/ubuntu/bird-experimental/
>
> [2]: https://launchpad.net/~cz.nic-labs/+archive/ubuntu/bird
>
> Cheers,
> Jakub 📦
>
> On 4/9/21 9:36 AM, Justin Cattle wrote:
>
> Hi Jakuk,
>
>
> That sounds very positive :)
> I would vote for updating the Launchpad PPA too, at least for this point
> release it would be helpful for us.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Just
>
>
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 03:58, Jakub Ružička <jakub.ruzicka at nic.cz> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I bring good news!
>>
>> I've been recently tasked with updating Debian and Ubuntu bird packages
>> and I'm probably going to maintain all bird packaging (including Debian
>> downstream) from now on as I do with Knot DNS and Knot Resolver packages
>> which were also previously maintained by Ondra Surý the current official
>> Debian bird package Maintainer. He agreed to pass the maintenance of
>> bird and bird2 Debian packages to me as well. Please note that I'm a
>> fresh Debian Maintainer, not a Debian Developer (yet?) so my powers are
>> slightly limited but I've been able to solve all Debian packaging tasks
>> so far with the kind help of my awesome sponsor and mentors and I intend
>> to do the same for bird.
>>
>> Debian unstable is in hard freeze and bird2 Debian package doesn't have
>> autopkgtests which means it can't be updated until Debian 11 Bullseye is
>> released.
>>
>> I've prepared bird2-2.0.8 on my Salsa fork and I also enabled Salsa CI
>> which is green (some harmless blhc warnings and reproducible build are
>> skipped):
>>
>> https://salsa.debian.org/jruzicka/bird2
>>
>> I'll make sure these changes will make it to Debian (and Ubuntu by
>> transition) eventually.
>>
>>
>> Regarding upstream packages, I initially intended to update the bird
>> launchpad you mentioned, but after a careful consideration I chose to
>> leverage openSUSE Build Service (OBS) instead to provide wider platform
>> support than just Ubuntu.
>>
>> OBS is already used in Knot Resolver and Knot DNS projects for packaging
>> and CI and while it has its share of problems, it currently provides
>> best value for building upstream packages on many different distros and
>> archs from shared packaging source.
>>
>> I already have bird2 packages built in a testing OBS repo for latest
>> Debian, Ubuntu, Fedoras, and CentOS but there are some remaining issues
>> with docs generation on older distro versions which I need to address.
>> In worst case scenario I will temporarily drop doc packages in order to
>> get bird built.
>>
>> I plan to announce the new OBS repos sometimes next week to provide
>> Debian, Ubuntu, and hopefully SUSE packages as opposed to Ubuntu only
>> through Launchpad.
>>
>> However, after seeing your interest in the Launchpad repo, I'll see if I
>> can get it updated as well to make the transition smoother.
>>
>>
>> I have bright plans for both upstream and downstream bird packaging but
>> I'll share the them only after I'm done with bird-2.0.8 packages you've
>> been waiting for.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your patience!
>>
>>
>> Jakub Ružička
>> CZ.NIC packager 📦
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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