Version 2.0.0-pre1
joel jaeggli
joelja at bogus.com
Mon May 1 17:27:06 CEST 2017
On 5/1/17 8:12 AM, Charles van Niman wrote:
> I would also support this change.
>
> Currently, on software that doesn't have this policy, I feel my only
> safe action is to install sessions disabled, ensure that an import and
> export filter is in place, and only then enable a session. Avoiding this
> action, and following draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject makes this more
> convenient and safer for all I feel. There is something to be said for
> the disruption of default behavior change, but I think a major point
> release is one of the best opportunities to do this.
In general I find it necessary to template safe by default import/export
policy,and then apply more progressive policy, irrespective of platform.
given that the minimal policy neccessary to over-ride a safe by default
import policy is something like:
accept;
that seems like a pretty low bar.
> /Charles
>
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Stefan Jakob <tinysammy at gmail.com
> <mailto:tinysammy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On 01.05.17 11:55, Job Snijders wrote:
> > On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 11:45:58AM +0200, Ondrej Zajicek wrote:
> >> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:42:19AM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 12:46:04AM +0200, Ondrej Filip wrote:
> >>>> Let me announce a new addition to 2.0.x branch.
> >>>
> >>> Congratulations!
> >>>
> >>> Does this 2.0.0-pre1 version follow draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject ?
> >>
> >> No, like 1.6.x, it has default policy of import all, export none.
> >>
> >> While i see that it is a good idea to have export none as default, i
> >> do not see much advantage to have import none as default.
> >
> > I'd argue this is insecure behaviour and I'm disappointed you do not see
> > an advantage.
> >
> > The default of "import all" fully relies on the EBGP neighbor not
> > announcing crap to you. Relying on others to do the right thing means
> > you are operating from a position of weakness rather then strength.
>
> I totally support the "default deny" pattern. This forces people to
> think what they want to achieve.
>
> This pattern is used on lot of device classes like FW devices,
> loadbalancers and even in router software like IOS-XR in most of the
> corners.
>
> default deny +1
>
> Imho, SJ
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