Version 2.0.0-pre1

joel jaeggli joelja at bogus.com
Mon May 1 17:27:06 CEST 2017


On 5/1/17 8:12 AM, Charles van Niman wrote:
> I would also support this change.
> 
> Currently, on software that doesn't have this policy, I feel my only
> safe action is to install sessions disabled, ensure that an import and
> export filter is in place, and only then enable a session. Avoiding this
> action, and following draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject makes this more
> convenient and safer for all I feel. There is something to be said for
> the disruption of default behavior change, but I think a major point
> release is one of the best opportunities to do this.

In general I find it necessary to template safe by default import/export
policy,and then apply more progressive policy, irrespective of platform.

given that the minimal policy neccessary to over-ride a safe by default
import policy is something like:

accept;

that seems like a pretty low bar.

> /Charles
> 
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Stefan Jakob <tinysammy at gmail.com
> <mailto:tinysammy at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 01.05.17 11:55, Job Snijders wrote:
>     > On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 11:45:58AM +0200, Ondrej Zajicek wrote:
>     >> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 10:42:19AM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
>     >>> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 12:46:04AM +0200, Ondrej Filip wrote:
>     >>>> Let me announce a new addition to 2.0.x branch.
>     >>>
>     >>> Congratulations!
>     >>>
>     >>> Does this 2.0.0-pre1 version follow draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject ?
>     >>
>     >> No, like 1.6.x, it has default policy of import all, export none.
>     >>
>     >> While i see that it is a good idea to have export none as default, i
>     >> do not see much advantage to have import none as default.
>     >
>     > I'd argue this is insecure behaviour and I'm disappointed you do not see
>     > an advantage.
>     >
>     > The default of "import all" fully relies on the EBGP neighbor not
>     > announcing crap to you. Relying on others to do the right thing means
>     > you are operating from a position of weakness rather then strength.
> 
>     I totally support the "default deny" pattern. This forces people to
>     think what they want to achieve.
> 
>     This pattern is used on lot of device classes like FW devices,
>     loadbalancers and even in router software like IOS-XR in most of the
>     corners.
> 
>     default deny +1
> 
>     Imho, SJ
> 
> 
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